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@Chris The Connections between the Club and the Lambs was told to me and it was like somebody had said this and somebody else said That and by the time I heard about the Story it had probably been Told and Retold Quite a Few Times with things added to it along the way. That's why I said before I didn't think the Club would associate with a Gang of Thugs. White shirts before 1891 could that have something To Do with the Lambs nickname? After all Lambs wool is White, in a Majority of Cases.

@Robbie So the Club are charging Fans an Entrance Fee to go into the Nest on Matchday? I seemed to have missed that announcement. Like you I may have to Pick and Choose my Matches this season, there's a Chance our Family are going to Move so Football will have to take a back seat. At Least for this season.

I Thought John might have Retired when Notts let him Go and then Gone Into Coaching. The Experience he has would Greatly Benefit a National League Side and in that League, he may be able to Cut his Teeth on Eventually becoming a Head Coach. And in Luke Williams he does have an Excellent Tutor. But what ever he Decides either carrying on Playing or Coaching I Do Wish John All The Best.

@Chris That's Strange but when you mentioned the Fact about Sheep/Lambs being used to keep the Grass down at Meadow Lane. I got a vague recollection of someone telling me that many years ago. Reading Facts from other members it's Funny how long forgotten memories Suddenly Resurface.

@KingMaynard Are you Married? Most women of my Wife's era are very house proud everything needs have it's place and everything needs to be in it's Place. It was how she was Brought up and her Mother and Grandmother were the same. It wasn't that my Friends House was Messy anyway I Just Think It's a Female Thing. Am I Right Fellas?

@CliftonMagpie I Guess that's what it was like back then. As a Kid I soon got over the Disappointment and forgot about it. If I hadn't have found the Letter stuck in the rollers of the Draw, it never would have crossed my mind again. When I found the Letter I thought I'd share it with the Rest of the PON Membership and compared to what @Robbie and his Daughter went through my disappointment pales into insignificance compared to the Horror they saw.

@Chris @Fan of Big Tone Chee I Wonder Who He'll Pick ? It Will Be One Hell Of A Tough Decision For Him????

As this site is Mainly about Notts County and other Football matters (stories on other matters do come up) I thought I'd move off the Footy angle and ask As This Happened To You? The other week the Wife and I were expecting visitors, they were coming round for a meal a few drinks and Pleasant Conversation. However before this came about the Wife goes into Cleaning Mode, everywhere needs to be Cleaned Polished and Hoovered the house must be Pristine, all surfaces scrubbed and Sink and Taps Polished to a shine that hurts your eyes and of course I had to help not only with the Cleaning but the meal as well, washing and preparing the Veg and finally what seems like hours of hard work everything is Ready. Our Friends who we've known for over 20 years come round and an Enjoyable Evening is Had By All. Of course the return invitation arrives a Few Weeks Later. We arrive at our Friends Door to bet Met and Welcomed by the Lady of the House. Do come in she says then Adds You'll have to Excuse the Mess. And the First Words Out Of My Wife's Mouth? That's Ok Don't Worry About It. And I'm Like What the ....

@liampie I have indeed watched Notts live with my Sons. The First time I brought my Eldest to Meadow Lane was with Tickets given to his School by the Club. In my Younger Days I did go and watch Derby at the Old Baseball Ground and even on one (just one mind) occasion I went to the City Ground and watched Forest get thumped 3-0 by Arsenal the year the Gunners did the Double, 70/71? I think it was.

@Chris I think you're right it would Probably be better as Greats, because of Players from Different Eras come to Mind. It was just that without a Shadow of a Doubt the Greatest Manager the Magpies have ever had was of Course the Late Great Jimmy Sirrel and I just wondered if there was a Notts player that stood out from the Rest. Tommy Lawton springs to mind, but I never saw him play. The Don and OOOO Tommy Johnson a couple of Good Calls in more Recent seasons Lee Hughes Comes to the Fore and of Course right up to Date Macca. Then we can't really Forget Les Bradd, Killer Kilcline, and even Jim O'Brien I suppose the List could go on and what do we base the Greatest Player on? Goals Scored? Appearances? Matches Won? Should Data be part of the choosing the Greatest? Because it would seem to be unfair to Dismiss Players such as Albert Iremonger with 564 appearances 211 of which were in succession. For Notts in Goal. And he's even got a Road named After him. Plus he was Nottingham Born and Bred.

@Robbie I Didn't think you were that Old!!????

Ok I'm about to Open A Can Of Worms Here. Who in your Opinion my fellow PON members. Is the Greatest Player Ever to Pull on a Notts Shirt? This Topic may have been Covered before, if it as Please Indulge Me. I will assume there will be many different Answers because of the Wide range of Fans of different ages who have Watched Notts over a Number of Years. But it will be Nice to hear from the Young Fans as well as the Veteran Fans. So lets hear from all Magpie Fans who is the Greatest Notts Player in Your Opinion?

@Robbie and @Fan of Big Tone Thanks Guys the Post you put up was an Interesting Read. And it appears that the Nottingham Slums gave Birth to the Lambs and their Kind. And Bendigo was a Hero to the working classes in the Nottingham Area. I also thought that most Football Clubs of that Era were founded by the Upper Classes and the Players weren't Paid being classed as Amateurs. The Boom in Nottingham Lace gives rise to another nickname Notts could have been called The Lace Men. Before Notts wore their Now Famous Black and White Stripes weren't their Colours Chocolate and Yellow Quarters? Oh Dear what a Combination, but the Clubs Colours well that's Another Story.

I've watch a fair Few of your Video's and enjoyed them you Strike me as a an Ordinary Fan who wants to get his thoughts and Feelings across about his Favourite Team. Your Straight Forward Nothing Fancy just giving an Honest Opinion. I Like That. Regarding your You tube Channel I Think that as to be Your Choice and Yours Alone. Because if it's an Over whelming Yes Carry on from members on this site and you Carry on, but Don't Enjoy it, you may find you shift the Blame onto your Fellow Fans and that's No Good at all. Maybe step back from You tube for a season or half a season, see how you feel, if it doesn't bother you and you feel happier without the Burden of putting the video's out there, then Quit. However if you watch a Match and feel the Urge that you need to Express your opinion on Certain Issues and you put out a video which is well received you may want to give You tube another Go. It's Really Up To You Mate.

@Robbie and @Fan of Big Tone Thankyou Gentleman. I didn't know this Subject had been covered before, as I only became a PON Member this Year. How Strange to Call a Bunch of Drinkers and Brawlers the Lambs and why would a Football Club want to give their Team that Nickname ? Unless of course the Founders thought that if other Teams knew of the Lambs reputation they'd be worried about Playing Notts thinking the Team were also Drinkers and Brawlers. Playing Mind Games with the Opposition. So onto the Magpies. Do either of you Gentlemen know why Notts were renamed the Magpies ( or does any PON Member?). I would have thought a Name Associated with Notts Legend Robin Hood would have been more appropriate. Like the Archers or the Outlaws.

@Robbie I heard something along those lines about a Gang of Thugs, and Notts were in some way Connected to the Group. But Dismissed it thinking the Clubs Founders wouldn't be Associated with a Gang of Villains.

@TheSkipper Exactly Right it always does seem the same, Notts get an up and coming Young Talent who is paraded in Front of the Notts Faithful and receives a few sentences in the Local Media, he'll play in a few Pre-Season Games and perhaps a couple of Cup matches, then off he goes out on Loan. Never to be heard of again, until is Contract is up and he moves away. How many Talented youngsters as that Happened to at Notts, over the Years? There should be at Least a couple of the Academy players given a Run of six or so matches to see how they fare. I think it will become Clear Pretty Quickly if the Player as it in him to become a Full Time Squad Member. It's been stated that Stuart Maynard likes to Develop Young Players, but the thing is will the Powers that be at Notts Allow Him To Do So?

@DeadlyMacca You keeping your present Monika then? You have Valid and Excellent Points. As have other Commentators on here. Coaching players and getting them Ready for First team Football should be the Clubs Top Priority. I t reminds me of a statement a Mate of Mine told me. He's a Big Liverpool Fan and When Jurgen Klopp was in charge at Anfield all the Teams did everything together from the First Team Squad , the Academy and Youth sides. Such as Eating together to learning how to Play the Liverpool Way and the Man always found the Time to cast an Eye over the Young and Up Coming Liverpool Talent. Just Jurgen Klopp being present and saying a Few words would Inspired the Kids . and he'd always listen to his Other Coaches, and that is probably Why a Team full of Liverpool Kids beat Chelsea a team which Cost a Billion pounds in last seasons League Cup. I wonder if something like the Klopp Method could be installed at the Lane? But then again Jurgen Klopp was the Liverpool Manager and Stuart Maynard is only a Mere Head Coach. And Interestingly Enough Klopp's successor Arne Slot will be Liverpool's Head Coach and Not Their Manager.

Back in my School Days (when we used Chalk to write on Slate) I remember one Christmas I got a Charles Buchanan Football Book and in a Section about Clubs Nicknames it was stated Notts County were Called the Lambs? This I told a School mate (an Ardent Notts Fan) who declared that was a Total Load Of Rubbish. But I replied that was what it said in my Football Book. Yeah well you're Football Book is Wrong. And to Prove his point Terry (that's my School mate) Brings in a Notts Football Programme, opens the it up and the in Capital Letters it says MAGPIES MESSAGE. So why the Lambs? And when was the Clubs Nickname changed from the Lambs to the Magpies? And was there any Main Reason for the Change?

Junior does seem to have had a Raw Deal at Notts so far, he's never been given much of a chance to show his capabilities and so far I think he's scored a single goal in the Matches he's played in. Now Macca's gone he could get the Chance he's been waiting for.

@upthepies Funnily Enough I have Never watched England Live. Both my Sons have and both Enjoyed the Experience. I just watch them on the Tele.

Well @Robbie that story Knocks mine into a Cocked Hat. At the time of that Tragedy I worked with a Lad who was a Big Forest Fan and he also went to that Match. When he came back to work after the event we could see a change in the Guy. He did talk about it to us and I think in some way it Helped him. He was also a member of the Saint John's Ambulance and he said one of the Hardest things for him was the fact, people were Injured and dieing in Front of Him and there was Nothing he could do about it being unable to get down to the Pitch, to help Out. He left a short time later. It's something I hadn't thought about in many years but your story remined me of his .

As I have said Before a young Player such has Ryley Reynolds and James Sanderson would benefit Greatly by being teamed up with an Experienced Player in the First team Squad. Both named youngsters are Midfielders so both would benefit Massively from players such has Dan Crowley and Curtis Edwards being beside them in Training and playing along side them in a Match. Both Academy Players while developing their own style and skills would learn from the Senior players about many things which could or may happen during Match Action and this would help them improve their play much much quicker then being loaned out to a Team, with a Lower Skill Set.

This was a Very Disappointing letting in 3 goals in the Last 10 minutes. Yes Yes I know it was and Friendly and a few of the Youngsters were given a chance and it was an extremely Hot Day. But with it being at the Higher End of a Friendly Match I thought that Stuart Maynard would have put out his Starting XI for the Match at Tranmere or as near to it, and played that team for at Least an hour. With the Season getting Closer it would be nice to have a Better Idea who will be representing the Magpies at the Season's Start. What Happened in the Last minutes once the first of the Zebra's goals went in, did the Old Notts Problem of letting their Heads Drop Come to the Fore?

The Trouble with Notts is it doesn't matter if a Youngster shows Promise they always seem to Go Down off You Go Out on Loan Route. As it's been mentioned before by another PON commentator Sam Osborne was another young Player who showed much promise, but was never really given the Chance of becoming a Permanent Senior Squad Member. Which Seems to be the Norm at Notts.